• http://SonicTruths.net Christopher Sutton

    “Good luck with that. For the rest of us, trading away privacy and control in return for the clear benefits of using Facebook and Spotify together is just part of the deal.”
    Ouch, were you trying to be flamebait with this? Whether you agree with Spotify’s decision or not, I’m quite amazed to see such a cavalier attitude to the erosion of privacy on what’s normally a well-reasoned blog.As with most protests on the basis of principle, it’s somewhat beside the point that people who don’t like it can go elsewhere. People are protesting because this is a worrying direction for music subscription services to take, and they believe everybody is worse off as a result – not simply because they personally can’t avoid it.

    As the official response from Spotify on GetSatisfaction pointed out, currently one can simply create a dummy Facebook profile to sign up with. But the vast majority of people won’t bother, so this suggested workaround really doesn’t address the privacy issue at all.

    Ah well, everything’s fine because no huge social network would ever require you to use your real identity, right? Oh, wait…

  • http://twitter.com/bwhitman Brian Whitman

    i also found your comment weird EVB. i found out today that there is no way to *not* send FB your listen data in spotify while using spotify in FB mode (you can hide the listen data from your profile, but FB still gets it and stores it.) That means that every new user of spotify is sending every single listen and skip and etc to FB whether they want to or not. That’s activity + IP data from a large group of people that have no idea they are broadcasting something to a 3rd party. 

  • dantothe4thpower

    “That’s activity + IP data from a large group of people that have no idea they are broadcasting something to a 3rd party.” do you mean, that same large group of people sends out details about 90% of the webpages they visit on the internet? in my mind, this is far more intrusive than facebook sharing the music you are listening to on spotify. data mining via third party services is nothing new since the internet has been born. the plus side is that this mining allows your friends to be integrated with your musical tastes, and vice versa. if you don’t like it, there’s always the option to utilize another service for your music needs. there are many different music services out there, for many different types of people with many different musical tastes.

  • http://evolver.fm Eliot Van Buskirk

    I suppose I was being a bit glib there, but ultimately, I also think it’s amusing that people think of these services as belonging to them. Facebook’s customers are advertisers, not users. These services are free to do whatever they want, and we are free to respond by not using them — or by deciding that the trade-off is worth it. For me, and I suspect a great many users (who after all have put up with all sorts of privacy erosion on Facebook already) it’s the latter; for others, it will be the former. On a Macro level, I view this as part of the privatization of the internet, as it were. Some very clever and idealistic people set up the internet to be a certain way, and apparently, it was too scary, so we’ve all gone running back into cages.

  • http://twitter.com/jkymarsh J. Ky Marsh

    Already didn’t plan on using Spotify, but this decision will ensure I never use it for any reason.

  • http://evolver.fm Eliot Van Buskirk

    As for the Spotify listening data being sent to Facebook regardless of settings, I agree that this is duplicitous. If people are going to make rational decisions about what they want someone doing with their data, they at least have the right to know what’s going on. We’re looking into it.

  • Roger Rohrbach

    Not “too scary”; rather, “not profitable.”

  • DonSchlonzo

    facebook login maybe good for spotify and facebook – to me it means: byebye spotify!

  • http://evolver.fm Eliot Van Buskirk

    Spotify denies that listening data is sent to Facebook after you Disconnect Spotify from Facebook. “All data sharing to FB stops when you uncheck the option in the Preferences menu.”

  • Ron

    FB’s customers are its advertisers, yes.  But Spotify is a freemium service, with options for subscriptions up to $120/year.  Spotify’s customers are its customers.  If you pay for the service, you should be able to use it stand-alone, in other words, without ads, and without facebook.

  • Colt12

    Its actually BS. You can turn off “Share basic information” but when you relog in it is reactivated. Like if you turn your computer on the next day and log in, you can look at your app settings on FB and it will be turned on again. Complete BS. So the app basically requires you to share that basic information, there is no way around it.

  • Dr. No

    What a idiot decision, no more $ from my Spotify. Bye, bye!